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Post by momandapplepie on Apr 10, 2024 14:27:43 GMT
I don't like this development at all. 6'4" Forward Janiah Barker from Texas A&M has entered the transfer portal. Her numbers are comparable to Ajae Petty's and she also has experience playing in the SEC against quality competition. But she is 2 inches taller than Petty and was only a sophomore last year (Petty was a Senior). I thought South Carolina would be weakened by the loss of Cardoza but if Barker ends up transferring there, that would go along way toward mitigating Cardoza's departure. www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39908735/texas-janiah-barker-enters-transfer-portal
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Post by storygordon on Apr 10, 2024 16:15:02 GMT
The value of the transfer portal is debatable. It didn't help LSU this year and van Lith is off to find treasure elsewhere. I like Geno's approach. Players who stay in place for four years gain benefits transients do not enjoy.
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Post by momandapplepie on Apr 10, 2024 17:40:02 GMT
The value of the transfer portal is debatable. It didn't help LSU this year and van Lith is off to find treasure elsewhere. I like Geno's approach. Players who stay in place for four years gain benefits transients do not enjoy. I respectfully disagree that the transfer portal did not help LSU this year....and last year too. If your decision criteria is simply did they repeat as champions, the answer of course is no. But repeat championships are rare and in my opinion too high of a bar to use to evaluate the impact of transfers. I think a more reasonable and accurate way to evaluate transfers is to evaluate whether the team would have achieved its same level of success without them. Would LSU have done better or worse without those transfers? Would they have still won 31 games and reached the Elite Eight final after losing 4 of the top 7 scorers from their National Championship team* if they did not bring in Morrow and Van Lith from the portal (to join Reese, herself a portal transfer) and replace that lost production...representing fully 47% of last year's scoring ? My answer to that question is a no. In that way, I think that the portal very much helped LSU a great deal this season. I mean...Morrow (16.4 ppg) and Van Lith (11.6 ppg) alone made up for 28 of the missing 38.6 points per game those 4 departing players scored. Overall, LSU also boosted their ppg from 82.3 last year to 86.7 this year. I give the arrival of Morrow and Van Lith credit for that too. The same with rebounds. LSU averaged 46.1 rpg in 2022-2023 with the four aforementioned departures accounting for 13.8 of them. Morrow averaged 10.0 rpg and van Lith averaged 2.4 rog to not only make up for the rebounding they lost last year but increase the team's overall rpg slightly to 46.5 this past season. Without those transfers, I do not believe LSU maintains its rebounding at an elite level. I think without Morrow or Van Lith (or Reese last year for that matter), LSU would not have won 31 games this year, would have been a lower seed, and would have not have reached the Elite Eight final. They achieved all of those things by importing two proven high quality starters from the portal. I also think if Doug Bruno had steered his former player Morrow to his buddy Geno this year to join Edwards in our front court, we may very well have won the national championship this year!!! *Alexis Morris. 15.4 ppg; LaDazhia Williams, 9.9 ppg; Jasmine Carson, 8.8 ppg; Kateri Poole, 4.5 ppg = 38.6 total points. LSU's 2022-2023 season average = 82.3 ppg. 38.6/82.3 = 47%
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Post by storygordon on Apr 10, 2024 19:40:59 GMT
The value of the transfer portal is debatable. It didn't help LSU this year and van Lith is off to find treasure elsewhere. I like Geno's approach. Players who stay in place for four years gain benefits transients do not enjoy. I respectfully disagree that the transfer portal did not help LSU this year....and last year too. If your decision criteria is simply did they repeat as champions, the answer of course is no. But repeat championships are rare and in my opinion too high of a bar to use to evaluate the impact of transfers. I think a more reasonable and accurate way to evaluate transfers is to evaluate whether the team would have achieved its same level of success without them. Would LSU have done better or worse without those transfers? Would they have still won 31 games and reached the Elite Eight final after losing 4 of the top 7 scorers from their National Championship team* if they did not bring in Morrow and Van Lith from the portal (to join Reese, herself a portal transfer) and replace that lost production...representing fully 47% of last year's scoring ? My answer to that question is a no. In that way, I think that the portal very much helped LSU a great deal this season. I mean...Morrow (16.4 ppg) and Van Lith (11.6 ppg) alone made up for 28 of the missing 38.6 points per game those 4 departing players scored. Overall, LSU also boosted their ppg from 82.3 last year to 86.7 this year. I give the arrival of Morrow and Van Lith credit for that too. The same with rebounds. LSU averaged 46.1 rpg in 2022-2023 with the four aforementioned departures accounting for 13.8 of them. Morrow averaged 10.0 rpg and van Lith averaged 2.4 rog to not only make up for the rebounding they lost last year but increase the team's overall rpg slightly to 46.5 this past season. Without those transfers, I do not believe LSU maintains its rebounding at an elite level. I think without Morrow or Van Lith (or Reese last year for that matter), LSU would not have won 31 games this year, would have been a lower seed, and would have not have reached the Elite Eight final. They achieved all of those things by importing two proven high quality starters from the portal. I also think if Doug Bruno had steered his former player Morrow to his buddy Geno this year to join Edwards in our front court, we may very well have won the national championship this year!!! *Alexis Morris. 15.4 ppg; LaDazhia Williams, 9.9 ppg; Jasmine Carson, 8.8 ppg; Kateri Poole, 4.5 ppg = 38.6 total points. LSU's 2022-2023 season average = 82.3 ppg. 38.6/82.3 = 47% That depends on how you evaluate the results. My point is that a year or two of the benefits from the transfer portal does not offset the value of being part of a group for four years. For me a sense of community, which lasts forever, tops where a team ends in the standings which is temporary. Our disagreement is noted.
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Post by momandapplepie on Apr 11, 2024 15:50:29 GMT
Lol....National Championship rings and the memories from that journey last forever too. That is what Morrow and Van Lith were pursuing when they converged at defending champion LSU to join Reese. That is also what I presume the top transfers this year are looking for...a chance to win a ring. That is why Cam Spencer joined UConn as his third team in his last year of eligibility...and he was rewarded with one!
Some players, Paige seems to be one, prioritize the touchy-feely stuff you cite. Others, however, are laser-focused on winning and will gladly team hop in that pursuit. To each his own.
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Post by storygordon on Apr 11, 2024 16:56:59 GMT
Lol....National Championship rings and the memories from that journey last forever too. That is what Morrow and Van Lith were pursuing when they converged at defending champion LSU to join Reese. That is also what I presume the top transfers this year are looking for...a chance to win a ring. That is why Cam Spencer joined UConn as his third team in his last year of eligibility...and he was rewarded with one! Some players, Paige seems to be one, prioritize the touchy-feely stuff you cite. Others, however, are laser-focused on winning and will gladly team hop in that pursuit. To each his own. True. It's a question of what you want to accomplish. The chances of winning the NC once is slim. Next year a dozen players or so will get a ring out of those who want one. The majority will not and that void is a minor part of one's success.
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Post by momandapplepie on Apr 11, 2024 18:15:25 GMT
Lol....National Championship rings and the memories from that journey last forever too. That is what Morrow and Van Lith were pursuing when they converged at defending champion LSU to join Reese. That is also what I presume the top transfers this year are looking for...a chance to win a ring. That is why Cam Spencer joined UConn as his third team in his last year of eligibility...and he was rewarded with one! Some players, Paige seems to be one, prioritize the touchy-feely stuff you cite. Others, however, are laser-focused on winning and will gladly team hop in that pursuit. To each his own. True. It's a question of what you want to accomplish. The chances of winning the NC once is slim. Next year a dozen players or so will get a ring out of those who want one. The majority will not and that void is a minor part of one's success. True enough. Only 12 will win a ring. But I would wager than both Morrow and Van Lith thought they would be among those 12 back when they decided to both go to LSU. Or at least they thought their chances were way better at LSU than at DePaul or Louisville (a calculation I would agree with). In their decision, I think they tipped their hand as to which type of player they are....ones who prioritize winning over 4-year relationships with their school and teammates.
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