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Post by putterguy on Mar 26, 2024 8:59:00 GMT
Both scores 32 pts Clark 9-22 , 5-14 from 3 8 rebounds 3 assists 6 turnovers Paige 14-25, 1-4 (3’s). 10 rebounds 6 assists. And 1 block. Paige had 4 turnovers which is probably season high for her. Clark is averaging over 4 a game. Look at the last 4 or 5 games and Clark is at least 4 times more turnovers and maybe 5 times . Several games Paige had 0. Clark made up her points at the foul line . Clark pushed off at least 3 times to get to the line Paige should have been to the line more than Clark last night .paige was fouled multiple times just rebounding Defensively Clark is a hugh liability on defense .Paige this year has become an excellent defender and she is playing completely out of position . Power forward against players taller and bigger than her
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Post by ismhuskyfan on Mar 26, 2024 13:22:14 GMT
We are comparing apples to oranges, I’ll take Buckets any day!!
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Post by storygordon on Mar 26, 2024 13:54:57 GMT
We are comparing apples to oranges, I’ll take Buckets any day!! True, although it may be more like comparing one apple to another as each one is an original as are each of us. Both are team players... both focus on personal performance... one difference is that Clark seems more sensitive to how others see her. Yes, I'll take Paige, especially the one who passes to KK for a dagger 3 making it 70-64 with 28 seconds left. Teammates.
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Post by putterguy on Mar 26, 2024 14:24:29 GMT
We are comparing apples to oranges, I’ll take Buckets any day!! True, although it may be more like comparing one apple to another as each one is an original as are each of us. Both are team players... both focus on personal performance... one difference is that Clark seems more sensitive to how others see her. Yes, I'll take Paige, especially the on who passes to KK for a dagger 3 making it 70-64 with 28 seconds left. Teammates. They are both great players . But they are different molds . Clark is a great offensive player but on defense my cat plays better defense than Clark and my cat died 4 years ago. Paige plays both ends of the court . She played power forward most of the year and she excelled on defense . Both are great assets but Clark is ridiculously careless with ball. She finished second nationally in turnovers her freshmen year, had the most in her sophomore and junior year and is pace to lead the nation this year. For her career she will end up either 3rd or second depending on how many more games she had . If she gets to the national championship she will probably have around 25 more turnovers. Against good teams she usually has 6 or more . Had 6 against West Virginia and they were an 8 th seed
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Post by jerryangel on Mar 26, 2024 23:06:42 GMT
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Post by Marco on Mar 27, 2024 14:23:27 GMT
From doggy daddy. We should note that the Big Ten tournament is a lot tougher than the Big east.
Spider has some great stats about the Naismith Award nominees. He listed 12 categories for Clark, Brink, Watkins and Bueckers. He didn't give a score for each player and just let your eyes tell you who is playing the best. But here is Doggy's scoring system. 4 points for 1st, 3 for 2nd, 2 for 3rd and 1 for 4th. Most points is better!!
Bueckers - 44 Clark - 30 Brink - 27 Watkins - 18
It's clear Paige has been the best player in the post season. It's not even close.
I thought that Spider was missing a few categories I would like to see so I looked it up.
FG%: Bueckers 53.9, Brink 40.2, Clark 39.8, Watkins 34.7
3PT%: Bueckers 44.1, Brink 30.8, Clark 29.2, Watkins 20.7
FT%: Clark 90.7, Watkins 79.2, Bueckers 75.0, Brink 47.3
Add in these three categories and Paige's lead expands.
Bueckers - 54 Clark - 38 Brink - 34 Watkins - 23
Watkins is really talented but inefficient. And Brink, at 6'4", is shooting 40%? Not good.
It's probably already decided for Clark, but the winner shouldn't be shooting 29% on threes for all the times she shoots it.
Paige Bueckers, hands down!!
Plus one for every assist block point rebound and steal. I don’t add extra for offensive rebounds as it already seems to favor the bigs. Minus one for every missed shot (2, 3 or foul), turnover or foul committed.
NAISMITH FINALISTS POST SEASON
5 games, conference tournaments plus ncaa so far
Rebounds: Brink 59, Paige 46, Clark 37, Watkins 37
Assists: Clark 47, Paige 26, Brink 17, Watkins 14
Steals: Paige 16, Clark 11, Watkins 7, Brink 4
Blocks: Brink 20, Paige 14, Watkins 7, Clark 2
Points: Clark 145, Paige 143, Watkins 110, Brink 75
Turnovers: Paige 8, Brink 11, Watkins 27, Clark 31
Fouls: Paige 2, Clark 10, Watkins 14, Brink 18
Missed shots: Paige 53, Brink 56, Clark 69, Watkins 72
Minutes: Paige 185, Watkins 183, Clark 179, Brink 143
Net positives: Paige 182, Clark 132, Brink 90, Watkins 62
Net +per min: Paige .984, Clark .737, Brink .629, Watkins .339
Assist/turnover: Paige 3.25, Brink 1.55, Clark 1.52, Watkins 0.52
You decide!!
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Post by Marco on Mar 27, 2024 14:32:09 GMT
She’s in the top five in the country in assists. She’s averaging 18 points per game. She’s putting up efficiency numbers matched only by Paige Bueckers.
But the buckets and dimes aren’t what Drake’s Katie Dinnebier lives for the most. Amount
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Post by storygordon on Mar 27, 2024 14:34:43 GMT
Good info, Marco, Stay tuned. The final result may lie more on how far each team goes than player performance. Is there a favorable bias for the NPOY being on the NC team? Stay tuned.
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Post by putterguy on Mar 27, 2024 17:16:45 GMT
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Post by Marco on Mar 30, 2024 16:10:25 GMT
Paige Bueckers, welcome back to March By Grace Raynor 7h ago 4 PORTLAND, Ore. — There were times last year when they were both undergoing treatment to rehabilitate their injured knees when UConn forward Ice Brady can remember Paige Bueckers barely being able to walk.
Bueckers tore her ACL in August 2022 during a summer pickup game that sidelined her for the entirety of the 2022-23 season. This, after missing 19 games the season before with a tibial plateau fracture from a non-contact injury. She couldn’t help the Huskies when their streak of 14 consecutive Final Four appearances came to an end last season. Couldn’t give her head coach any on-court contributions in what became one of the most trying seasons of Geno Auriemma’s career.
So when Brady watched Bueckers drop 32 points, grab 10 rebounds and finish with 6 assists and 4 steals against Syracuse last week in the second round of the NCAA Tournament, she made sure to take it all in.
“After the last game, just watching everything back, I’m just amazed,” she said.
She wasn’t the only one.
“We have the best player in America,” Auriemma famously said last week. “And you know, (I’m) just saying that because the numbers in this world of analytics — the numbers say that she is.”
Welcome back to March, Paige Buckets.
“Everybody knows I haven’t had the smoothest sailing in college,” Bueckers said Friday. “I’ve had injuries, a lot of adversity. But (I’m) just taking whatever life throws at me, continuing to conquer it with a great mentality.”
Bueckers said she was surprised by Auriemma’s comments after the Syracuse game, perhaps for two reasons.
The first: “You sort of wouldn’t expect him to say it because of what happens in practice and what happens in the game — how much he yells at you during that,” she said, smiling. Auriemma demands much of his players and makes no bones about it.
The second: “I was sitting right next to him. … I definitely didn’t think he would say that (where) I could hear it.”
But Auriemma knows that UConn is a different team when Bueckers — the 2021 Wooden Award winner as a freshman — is on the court. She has scored 27 points in each of her past five games, with double-digit rebounds in three of them.
Maybe that’s why Auriemma — asked about his comments creating a stir last week considering Caitlin Clark’s run through the sport — not only defended them Friday, he doubled down.
“I bet if you asked USC, they wouldn’t tell you Caitlin Clark is the best player. I bet if you asked LSU, they wouldn’t tell you. I bet if you asked Texas, they wouldn’t tell you,” Auriemma said, referencing JuJu Watkins, Angel Reese and Maddie Booker’s dominance for the Trojans, Tigers and Longhorns, respectively.
“I think every coach thinks the player that’s on their team that’s helping them the most is the best player. Listen, I’ve coached the best player in the country a lot more than anybody else coaching in this tournament. It’s OK for somebody to say their player is (the best).”
Those weren’t just empty platitudes, of course. In 13 career NCAA Tournament games, Bueckers has averaged 20 points per game, and she was especially instrumental in guiding the Huskies to the Final Four as a freshman and sophomore. This season, the Huskies could have collapsed with season-ending injuries to starters, such as Azzi Fudd and Caroline Ducharme, but Bueckers kept them steady.
Bueckers already announced she is returning for her fifth season of eligibility next season, so her time in Storrs won’t be over even if UConn falls short of reaching the final weekend.
But it’s obvious Auriemma and her teammates aren’t just thrilled about Bueckers’ return because she’s such a key to the Huskies’ success. They realize as much as anyone the difficulty of her journey and the fortitude it required to return.
Brady said that while she and Bueckers rehabbed together, the two friends relied on their shared faith as they each worked to return to full strength. There’s an understanding in the UConn locker room that the Huskies are a more confident, more dangerous team when Bueckers is on the floor. That they’re playing alongside a different caliber player who can take over the game at any moment.
It doesn’t hurt, either, that Bueckers has great snacks and is always willing to share her Thin Mint Girl Scout cookies.
“She’s an amazing player. To be out there on the court with her, it’s just — I’m so grateful for the experience and to be able to learn from her and grow with her,” freshman guard Ashlynn Shade said. “She makes the game so much easier for everyone else. … She’s probably the best scorer I’ve ever seen, passer, she has amazing defense. Everything she does is amazing.
“To be here with her, you don’t get many chances like this as a player.”
Bueckers credited Auriemma for her continued growth — “I know with him there’s no choice,” she quipped — and said playing for the 70-year-old Hall of Famer has pushed her to reach a higher level of greatness.
When UConn plays Duke in the Sweet 16 on Saturday, the Blue Devils must make it their highest priority to have an answer for the 6-foot guard who also moonlights as a forward for the Huskies. Bueckers is shooting 54 percent from the field, 41.8 percent from deep and is averaging career highs with 21.8 points and 5.1 rebounds per game.
To be back on this stage at this time of year only feels right.
“If you go by stats, if you go by efficiency, if you go by the entire box score and what she means to our team … I think she’s done more for our team than anybody else could have done on our team,” Auriemma said. “I wouldn’t trade her for anybody else.”
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Post by Marco on Mar 30, 2024 16:13:50 GMT
Starting Five: Paige Bueckers earning the title of 'Miss March' The superstar has taken her game to another level in the postseason. Daniel Connolly March 30, 2024
Before the Big East Tournament, Paige Bueckers had a conversation with herself. After an at-times grueling regular season in which UConn dealt with a slew of injuries and suffered five defeats, the start of the postseason provided a chance to hit the reset button. Bueckers wanted to make sure she took advantage of it. “I just told myself before the Big East Tournament, before this tournament, just to embrace it and have fun,” she said after the win over Syracuse. The result? Only a stat-line of 28.6 points, 9.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3.2 steals and 2.8 blocks while shooting 53.9 percent overall and 44.1 percent from three across UConn’s five postseason games. Bueckers has been unstoppable since the calendar turned to the March. That shouldn’t come as a surprise, though. Aaliyah Edwards has been trying to tell everyone. “I've been saying she’s built for March,” the senior forward said. “She is Miss March herself.” In the Huskies’ second-round win over Syracuse, Bueckers carried the team with 32 points, 10 rebounds, six assists and four steals on 25 shots. She refused to let UConn lose and was so spectacular that Geno Auriemma declared her the “best player in America.” He would know, too. “Listen, I've coached the best player in the country a lot more than anybody else coaching in this tournament,” Auriemma said. Despite coming off a torn ACL, Bueckers already put together a spectacular campaign. She was named an AP and USBWA First Team All-American and then brought home Big East Player of the Year. Somehow, she’s gotten even better in the postseason. “If you go by stats, if you go by efficiency, if you go by the entire box score and what she means to our team playing power forward, I think she's done more for our team than anybody else could have done on our team,” Auriemma said. “I wouldn't trade her for anybody else.” Back in Portland UConn got into Portland a day ahead of its official practice day at the Moda Center, so it went over to the Nike World Headquarters to get a workout in. For plenty of freshmen, that would’ve been a once-in-a-lifetime experience. But for Ashlynn Shade and KK Arnold, they’ve now done that twice. “KK And I were on the (Nike) Hoop Summit team last year so we played here (at the Moda Center) and we practiced at the Nike (campus),” Shade explained. “We toured Nike.” The different buildings at Nike HQ are named after famous athletes and coaches associated with the brand. So there’s Mia Hamm, Michael Jordan, C. Vivian Stringer and Ken Griffey Jr. buildings, for example. UConn practiced at the LeBron James Innovation Center — which, considering the opponent on Saturday, is certainly a better option than the one Shade has been in previously. “It’s good we didn’t practice on the Coach K court,” she laughed, referencing the building named after former Duke men’s basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski. The difference a year makes It’s hard to believe UConn and Duke faced off just last season considering how much turnover both teams have experienced. The Huskies won that contest, also in Portland during the PK85 tournament, behind 23 points from Lou Lopez Sénéchal and 14 points from Azzi Fudd. Aubrey Griffin started while Caroline Ducharme and Ayanna Patterson provided big minutes off the bench. Just three of UConn’s current crop of healthy players played in that game: Aaliyah Edwards, Nika Mühl and Inês Bettencourt. As for Duke, it has just four players still on the roster that were on the court in the last meeting: Kennedy Brown, Reigan Richardson, Ashlon Jackson and Vanessa De Jesus. “They're a much younger, much different team than the team we played here last year. We're a little bit different team, as well,” Auriemma said. “I think both teams will be trying to get to know each other a little bit.” Practice players UConn arrived in the Rose City with a larger-than-usual contingent. In addition to the 14 members of the roster, coaches and support staff, the Huskies brought five male practice players with them. Granted, some serve in other roles — one of them is graduate assistant Jake Gallo — but it’s still unusual to see practice players on the road with the team. Such is life when only eight players are healthy enough to practice, though. “They are everything to us — and not just this year. I feel like for four years without them, we would never reach the things that we always reach,“ Mühl said. “Without them, we don't exist.” Only the first 10 minutes of UConn’s practice were open to the media but there were no surprises during it. The team had full attendance — the eight active players all appeared to participate while the six injured players were present as well. View from the other side While our coverage is obviously UConn-centric, it’s always interesting to hear what the opposition thinks about the Huskies. Kara Lawson on Paige Bueckers: “She's obviously a really talented player. Pretty complete in every area. I guess what stands out is there's not a lot of weaknesses. You have to be really disciplined, really sound. Even when you do that, she's good enough to still make plays… She's one of the best players in the country.” Kennedy Brown on how Duke stacks up against UConn: “They're like a well-oiled machine. I think Coach Auriemma has them prepared and they just function really well as a unit. So being able to be be disruptive and get some disruption into that flow that they like to play with, then pushing the pace for us I think will be important as well. That's something we focus on every game, though. Our game plan hasn't really changed. Give what you can when you're out on the court, push the pace, then we'll get subs in. I think our depth will be crucial for us, as well.”
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